tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1952866519335588313.post7758145079815059742..comments2023-10-10T05:41:09.249-05:00Comments on LandShark 5150: ARTICLE V AND A HISTORY LESSON FROM THE GHOST OF FOUNDERS PASTLandShark 5150http://www.blogger.com/profile/11625229822235020824noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1952866519335588313.post-45898367264019023262010-03-21T21:40:51.235-05:002010-03-21T21:40:51.235-05:00The states cannot propose amendments but only ask ...The states cannot propose amendments but only ask for a convention call. See www.foavc.org FAQ section for discussion on this issue.<br /><br />Also read Federalist 85 as well as the four SC decisions on this. Also read the 700 applications from all 50 states. All can be read at www.foavc.org.Bill Walkerhttp://www.foavc.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1952866519335588313.post-80276170042990421182010-03-21T13:46:46.165-05:002010-03-21T13:46:46.165-05:00to answer your question, for purpose of an honest ...to answer your question, for purpose of an honest debate, no. but they'd read it for the purpose of justifying their accusations against the right.The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1952866519335588313.post-68081309274824756932010-03-21T12:27:01.624-05:002010-03-21T12:27:01.624-05:00"...and that no State, without its Consent, s..."...and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."<br /><br />mmmm, would seem to me that the 17th amendment violates this clause.<br />reason:<br />1. governments are the recognized representative or spokespersons of any and every State in the world, not the citizens of that State.<br /><br />2. thus to declare that the Senate is to represent the State he must be elected or selected by the people who hold the seat of governments of that State.<br /><br />3. based on this clause it would take an unanimous agreement of every State for an amendment to the Constitution before a State could be deprived of its equal suffrage because it stipulates that each State has to give its consent.<br /><br />4. Since 10 States rejected the 17th amendment, each of those 10 States were deprived of their suffrage without their consent.<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia, 17th Amendment</a>The Griperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937560474548021334noreply@blogger.com